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Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.06 11:55:00 -
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 Originally by: Sakura Nihil
Originally by: Agustus Caesar
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Even if the Federation is the lesser of two evils, it does not change the fact that it is a subtle evil that needs to be destroyed.
I would even go as far as saying that the Federation is the greater evil. Everyone can see the evil that Amarr empire represents. The threat is clear and defined; number of those opposing slavery and archaic religios regime of Amarr is great.
Federation and its 'democracy', on the other hand, is a subtle threat, and is supported by a large number of people, who being ignorant fall for the trap marked 'freedom here'. If one does not see the danger, it does not make it any less real.
Those who think that The Star Fraction somehow goes against its own ideology here should update their definition of freedom. It seems the gallentean democracy virus was successful at infecting your mind.
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Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.06 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Caratacus
Those are exactly the response's i expect. you do nothing to explain your actions just answer with pathetic phrases 'if you don;t like it come stop us' I am more than happy to admit that i could not stop even one of your vets let alone your blob. But you could at least have the decency to explain your behaviour or you will always be known as cowwards an bully's
I ask again are you scared of Amarrians is that why you've targetted an exetremely quiet Alliance. Don't give me crap about in game converstaions with them. The Cyrene Initiative are seldom heard from on IGS and they hardly ever throw opinions around. so you tell us why you target them over Exetremely vocal Pro Amarr alliance's. YOUR scared thats why. you know you can't handle Amarr so you take out the little guy to make yourselves feel big. It's pathetic, Do you all feel big and proud in your pods. These tactics ressemble IU's way to closely. You only attack when you think you can win ((nothing to do with RP just Griefing))
We explained the reasons behind this war very clearly I believe. Who are to demand we explain our actions to you?
This is not the last war we fight. I am afraid you will have to swallow your own words in the future, if you have a future that is. Whose fault is it you are weak?
((I did not want to post OOC, but here it goes. You suppored the Federation, we fight the imperialism. Welcome to EVE boy. If you support something, learn to protect it. Let it be the last OOC post here. If you want to discuss more start a thread in public section of SF forums or in OOC section of EVE-O))
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Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.09 21:59:00 -
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Edited by: Tecam Hund on 09/01/2007 22:01:35
No two individuals will ever completely agree on everything. However, it is good to see that there are some who can, to certain degree, understand and respect opinion of another despite the disagreements.
P.S. Interesting how you called us idealists, Ms Jenneth. About a year ago, prior me joining the Star Fraction, I made a remark on Galnet concerning SF. I used the word idealists. Look where I ended up now.
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Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.10 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Steiner
Another reason to hate SF. Always wonder how deep the hole they digging for them self is going to be.
I hope sooner rather then later the world will turn against you and your contradicting ways and finally get rid of you once and for all. Bury you so deep that not even history will remember you.
You can't kill an idea Steiner.
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Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.10 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: Tecam Hund on 10/01/2007 11:51:56
Originally by: GoGo Yubari
The resources available to us are not limitless, nor will they become so. Social groups both large and small will rise to protect humans from themselves and to sa***uard their precious resources.
Space is limitless, and the universe is ever-expanding. As the number of spacefaring humans grows so will the number of known systems. Right now only a fraction of resources locked down and "sa***uarded" by 0.0 alliances are used.
Which brings us to the point of their value and how one would try to protect the resources of higher value. Look at the current mineral market prices. Minerals like Zydrine and Megacyte are dropping increasingly lower while tritanium, pyerite and mexallon (wich are found in Empire space in surplus) nearly doubled in price.
The reason I brought this up is, value of a resource is not only decided by amounts of it present in the universe, but also by its availability to the public. If the borders were opened the difference between 'owning' a field of bistot and mining widely spread veldspar would grow minimal considering logistical and security issues associated with 0.0 industry and mining.
Obviosly tyrants will not give up their monopoly so easily, but that is why we exist.
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Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.10 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Agustus Caesar
Originally by: Tecam Hund
You can't kill an idea Steiner.
Maybe, but that doesn't seem to stop Star Fraction from trying though, does it?
We do not kill ideas - we change minds, however ridiculous it might seem to some shortsighted people.
Ideology of The Star Fraction is a natural evolution of human species. So, replying at the same time to Mr Steiner, if you want to kill everyone who carries our idea with them you would have to kill yourself as well. We all have a potential to evolve, the key is to free your mind.
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Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.10 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Steiner
Originally by: Tecam Hund
We do not kill ideas - we change minds, however ridiculous it might seem to some shortsighted people.
Ideology of The Star Fraction is a natural evolution of human species. So, replying at the same time to Mr Steiner, if you want to kill everyone who carries our idea with them you would have to kill yourself as well. We all have a potential to evolve, the key is to free your mind.
If the ideal is a natural evolution of the human species why are you intervening with it? It all takes time and there is nothing you can do about it so leave people to there own business and watch the evolution.
So in this short sighted war you are killing people to change there minds? Sounds like ******* to virginity to me.
I look at it as speeding up the evolution. Showing that what we believe in is actually possible.
As for leaving people to their own business. Aren't you a pirate and a mercenary? Killing for monetary gain in the name of whoever pays the most is your business, so you have no room to talk here.
And yes, from my point of view, we fight our 'shortsighted' wars to change minds.
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Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.10 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Steiner
Speeding up evolution by killing people doesn't sound right, I think the people need to be alive to be able to evolve but I guess thats just my short sightedness?
You are telling me that I have no place here while you are forcing your ideals on someone else, you are like the Amarrians driving a righteous crusade to subjugate everyone that stands in the way of your "ideal" under the cover that you are doing the world a favor. You are nothing better then a sick serial killer that carefully picks his victims and then escapes his own hanging by using fancy words to say that he was doing it in name of peace. I see a lot of resamplence with the old federation and Star Fraction.
(No offense meant to the Amarrians.) And yes ISK is my believe but thats non of your business because I keep it to my self.
This is an evolution of mind we are talking about. Not just of a single person, but of humanity (transhumanity, posthumanity whichever you like better). A few deaths on the way to the goal is the price we are willing to pay. Besides, the real focus is on capsuleers, who of course don't die in the process.
I merely told you that you have no place to judge us for interfereing with other people's busines due to the nature of your own profession.
We also do not force our views on others. We present them with an argument - the war. What happens next is up to them.
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Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.12 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Originally by: Steiner
Another reason to hate SF. Always wonder how deep the hole they digging for them self is going to be.
I hope sooner rather then later the world will turn against you and your contradicting ways and finally get rid of you once and for all. Bury you so deep that not even history will remember you.
You can't kill an idea Steiner.
But isn't that what you are trying to do? Killing the idea that empires are good?
Read the whole thread please...
*Tecam Hund sighs* Sometimes I think that autocannons talking have a much better effect.
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Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.12 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi
Edited by: Hoshi on 12/01/2007 12:36:26
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Originally by: Hoshi
But isn't that what you are trying to do? Killing the idea that empires are good?
Read the whole thread please...
*Tecam Hund sighs* Sometimes I think that autocannons talking have a much better effect.
I did and as usually you avoided answering it and every other question that could put a ***** in the validness of your ideology. But I digress, not like I expected anything else...
I answered the same exact question directly.
What kind of question is this? "Killing the idea that empires are good?" We certainly do not kill the idea "that empires are good" by killing every living person who might consider so. Spectrum of the Star Fraction is much wider, and we show the way by setting the example.
Finally there is no good or bad, and one can never operate in such absolutes.
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